White high neck ribbed crop jumper. This might sound ridiculous, but can become a big deal quite easily. Does dressing in that shirt from the conference where you felt unwelcome make you feel relaxed and comfortable? Light pink brushed rib high neck top. So you're saying your graphic design is more important than having your event be welcoming and inclusive to women?
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Cream chain print T-shirt. Grey hacci boat neck long sleeve top. White rib notch front vest. Black rib notch front vest. Light pink diamante embellished shoulder top. Dark red basic scoop neck long sleeve top. Black 'c'est la belle' print long sleeve top. Black high neck long sleeve top. Green high neck ribbed crop jumper.
Red ribbed crew neck T-shirt. White V neck slouchy batwing sleeve T-shirt. The neckline may be slightly scooped in front. As you can see, having fitted shirts available for people with curvy bodies is important to their comfort.
Fitted shirts are commonly made of thinner more transparent , less sturdy, more stretchy, cooler fabric than straight-cut shirts. A woman who picks a straight-cut shirt based on its measurements and expecting the same amount of stretch as a fitted shirt may find the shirt fits tighter than expected, and does not shed heat as well, which can be uncomfortable in a crowded and already overly warm room.
American Apparel women's 2XL tshirt, laid over a men's L. The women's shirt is 41" in diameter, measured armpit to armpit. Taking ThinkGeek's sizing info as an example: Women's tshirts are sized from 32" S to 42" 2X. The largest available women's size has a chest measurement between men's M 40" and L 44". A woman whose bust measurement which is not just the size of the underlying frame, but the breasts as well is equivalent to a men's XL 48" will find that a woman's 2X is 6" too small for her.
Either of these options may make women feel uncomfortable, and can compound any discomfort they might already feel at being in a minority at an event or in a group. T-shirt sizing also ties into Body image issues for many women in geek communities. Some conference organizer, after learning that women want fitted shirts, ask their vendors for tshirts in "girls' sizes. Conferences can then get the take-away impression that while women request tshirts, when they're provided, they don't actually want them—so for the next conference, they don't bother to get any sizes besides men's.
Let's be up-front about this. T-shirt choice has important implications for women in relation to their choice of underwear. This might sound ridiculous, but can become a big deal quite easily. Women generally don't want to walk around geek events with their underwear showing, unless they're cosplaying or have otherwise signed up for that sort of thing. Light coloured t-shirts, shirts with thin fabric, and some other t-shirt design choices can put people in an uncomfortable situation.
Geek employers tech companies, etc often provide t-shirts in men's sizes only. Female employees who do not wish to wear ill-fitting t-shirts can experience various problems related to this:. Any of these can lead to a perception that a woman is less good at her job -- a very subtle form of discrimination.
There are many ways women or others with curvy bodies can modify straight-cut t-shirts to better fit them. Some of these can be done with minimal skill and equipment, while others require considerable reconstruction and the use of a sewing machine.
There are some problems with this, however:. In short, although some women may enjoy "hacking" their t-shirts to fit, it's not reasonable to expect them to do so. Often, when women decline an ill-fitting t-shirt, they are told they should take it anyway because "you can sleep in it". Sleep is a time for relaxing and being comfortable.
Does dressing in that shirt from the conference where you felt unwelcome make you feel relaxed and comfortable? How many sleep shirts does anyone need anyway? For those who do sleep in t-shirts, the sleep shirt or the bumming-around-the-house shirt is an honorable retirement for old favourites from the A list.
There's usually a more than adequate supply without adding dozens more from every hack day, convention, or start-up promo. And that's even assuming you sleep in a t-shirt at all.
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